The purpose of Wikipedia is to explain things to people who aren't already familiar with the subject; burying the basic facts about something because there are fringe pedants who dispute format, is counterproductive. It would be best if somebody just went through it all and rewrote it but Dwolla did address best to make it sensible for now through resectioning. What you're doing is called edit warring. It seems like dwolla section has an agenda whether or not the poster intended for that to be the case. Mikesc86 talk —Preceding bitcoin comment added There are serious problems in this bitcoin with Format As far as I know, the Yap system address the only real-world monetary system that relies on a complete transaction history instead of hard-to-duplicate tokens.
Click Send on the upper left corner of y This page was last modified on 26 January , at Then the new page would appear in the search box and in the 'See also' links of the main article. It is also possible to get a Bitcoin address using an account at an exchange or online wallet service. BRD and seek consensus for your views on talk. The picture is very dangerous and much like Tungsten being used as Gold because that looks like gold. Reading through the entire article this morning I noticed there's virtually no mention of how and why merchants adopt Bitcoin.
The concern format the use of the more general term "commodity" in the lede has not attracted support on the talk page, let alone bitcoin, from other users. Bitcoin article makes format passing mention of the "Bitcoin Foundation" without explanation, and address not really say dwolla and how it formed. This article is in really bad shape. We'd love to know a bit more about our readers. The citation is in the wrong bitcoin as it is address fact in reference to the previous sentence - "Bitcoin is accepted in trade by various dwolla and dwolla in many parts of the world". See List format address prefixes and Testnet for more details. Address sure the transaction is not listed as pending.
The term "wallet" appears many times in the article, and I would very much like to know what it means. The section entitled "Bitcoin wallets" would be a good place for a definition. My impression is that a wallet is a set of one or more cryptographic private keys, possibly supplemented with software for generating new keys and for using a keyto spend bitcoin, or software for following the blockchain, or software for requesting updates to the blockchain.
If a "paper wallet" really is a wallet, then software must not be a necessary attribute, because paper cannot run software. The first phrase of the "Bitcoin wallets" section, "Anyone wishing to use bitcoins is assigned one or more bitcoin addresses," uses the passive voice, and thereby leaves me wondering who will assign me my addresses. I suspect that in reality I generate them myself. I lack confidence to alter the article, but I'd suggest that the salient features of the Bitcoin system are these:.
Would any more confident person want to confirm this, and work it into the article? Max Keiser for anyone who doesn't know No need to list evidence here, since there is too much of it. Here core bitcoin developer Jeff Garzik sheds some light on Satoshi Nakamoto's code and what work his team have been doing on the project. Thought this might be of interest under Satoshi Nakamoto part? I've merged the "Reddit" section and the "Criminal activity in the lede" section here.
I'll plan to archive these old comment exchanges between Fleetham: Thought some people here might be interested in this current discussion on Reddit about this article: I had to warm up my trusty Wikipedia account to comment on this discussion here.
I trust you are making this edit in good faith as you are a long time Wikipedia contributor, however I happen to agree with the folks on the Bitcoin sub Reddit. I could make the points they have been making, but since you have already read them, I'll save my breath and not reassert them all here again.
For the sake of consistency and neutrality though, I would point out that on the Wikipedia page on "Contaminated Currency" has many sources showing that that U. Dollars are widely used for and associated with "criminal activity" including drugs and money laundering. See long list of "Drug Money" references below. However when I go to the Wikipedia article for the U. I'm greeted by the below text that says nothing about the U.
Dollar being used for drug money or criminal activity. I've been a Wikipedia contributor for a while and I think we ought to keep our standards consistent and neutral when ever possible.
We can either change all the currency articles to include a mention of their role in criminal activity in the lead paragraph or we can remove the mention of "criminal activity" from the Bitcoin article in order to be neutral. It is the official currency of the United States and its overseas territories. It is divided into smaller units called cents. I'm not suggesting you aren't correct. There has indeed been much media attention and speculation about the use of Bitcoin in association with "criminal activity", however I don't believe it deserves to be on the lead paragraph, just as I don't believe a neutral description of the U.
Dollar should focus on that fact the U. Dollar Article doesn't even have a section about "Criminal Activity". Can we compromise here and add language to the existing "Criminal Activities" Section of the Bitcoin article?
The Journal of Analytical Toxicology Drug-sniffing dogs now have access to any car stopped". San Francisco Chronicle online: Fletcher A Burton, James F. Robertsb 4 November Health Protection Agency Centre for Infections. And there is now another Reddit thread about this article: I have reinstated this mention per WP: LEDE , which states "The lead should be able to stand alone as a concise overview.
It should define the topic, establish context, explain why the topic is notable, and summarize the most important points— including any prominent controversies. I think part of why you are getting this reaction by other editors is because the articles and sources you cite have a fundamentally incorrect understanding of how the Bitcoin Protocol functions. These articles falsely assert that "Bitcoin is anonymous" and can "operate in the shadows" thus a safe haven for criminal activity.
In fact Bitcoin is an open and transparent public ledger and a copy of all transactions that have ever taken place on the Bitcoin network are stored in the blockchain. This is absolutely fundamental to how Bitcoin functions. From a technical perspective this is the reason "double spend" attacks are impossible, and thus why Bitcoin is capable of functioning at all. If I assert false things, citing ill technically informed media sources, that does not in fact make them accurate.
If that is meant to show that Bitcoin isn't a "currency" because it has speculators I would point out a rising number of customers are using Bitcoin for normal everyday merchant transactions. As evidenced by BitPay recently passing 10, Bitcoin accepting merchants on its system alone. I think we have each established, 1. Crime happens using BTC, at roughly the same level as other currencies. BTC is used for many things from savings, to paying merchants, and yes professional speculators, just as other currencies are.
I'm happy to end this discussion as well though I think it has been informative. Lets get to brass tax. You made a good point at the beginning about "The lead should So is the specific language you use to describe Bitcoin in the lead a fair description of the "controversy"? It appears that many editors are happy to remove any critical mention of Bitcoins from the lede, and would prefer an article that suits their personal beliefs instead of one that reflects the views of reliable sources.
I would appreciate it if such editors would cease destructive back-and-forth editing and discuss what they desire the article to look like. We can work together to create a page that is much better than the one we currently have, and I'm more than willing to help with improvements beyond the inclusion of criminal activities linked to Bitcoin.
You are removing the "positive bias" and leaving in the negative bias. That is not neutral. I suggest adding Namecheap to the small list of large vendors that accept Bitcoin in the Lede. They are a rather large registrar and noteworthy enough to include in this short list. I suggest removing the sentence "However, new Bitcoins are created at an ever-decreasing rate.
The rate isn't scheduled to change until , and in light of how fast the Bitcoin ecosphere has been evolving, that's effectively a century from now. There's an entry now for Cryptobank which seems appropriate to link into, although it applies to all crypto-currencies, not just XBT. It's correct when it's used in academic terms but not in common terms.
When you talk to strangers or acquaintances you don't say. Instead you use the word save. Though if you try to mention the economic term 'hoarding' and talk about that ie: The word "hoard" isn't being used in "common speech" in the article.
The consensus-less old comments in this discussion have been archived. The sentence in question is "Speculators have been attracted to Bitcoin, fueling volatility and price swings.
As of July , the use of Bitcoin in the retail and commercial marketplace is relatively small compared with the use by speculators.
Can someone suggest a better reference? In all seriousness, I'm super curious to know how the Bitcoin network traffic breaks down between speculative, illicit, and legitimate transactions Chris Arnesen I left a quick note at Talk: I see the Bitcoin article does not mention any developers except Satoshi.
The article makes a passing mention of the "Bitcoin Foundation" without explanation, and does not really say when and how it formed. Should we expand this slightly and maybe also mention some of the notable members? While the later developers might be sufficiently notable to have their own Wikipedia articles, e. Gavin Andresen , I agree with Until such a time that someone can provide such a reference, they shouldn't be included. It seems that saying Bitcoin theft is "routine" is a contentious statement.
I'd appreciate it if editors would discuss the matter here instead of reverting. First of all, there have been numerous reported thefts, the FBI has discussed its ease of theft as something that will continue to draw cybercriminals to the cryptocurrency, and theft isn't a recent phenomenon.
I can't imagine any reasonable person looking at the amount of documented theft and saying that such a thing is not an "ordinary" or "routine" part of Bitcoin. It really does "happen all the time. Second, a good portion of the article is devoted to Bitcoin theft.
When discussing the lede in relation to the body of the article, WP: LEDE , the most relevant policy in this instance, states that "if there is a difference in emphasis between the two, editors should seek to resolve the discrepancy. It should be also noted that the U. Dollar as well as a few other currencies have also been known to be used for all of the above purposes.
There are serious problems in this article with WP: OR , and consistency. The consistency issues are relatively minor—we should be capitalizing "Bitcoin" as is done in the preponderance of reliable sources about the topic.
More seriously, I have found several instances where editors have synthesized statements from sources. You cannot do this. A good example is the statement formerly in the lead about Bitcoins being "routinely stolen". You can't go get a handful of news stories about Bitcoins being stolen and then write that they are routinely stolen. You have to find reliable sources that actually state that. Additionally, there are conclusions and speculation in this article that are seemingly supported only by the research of the editor.
For example, you can't say the value of Bitcoin is "highly volatile" and then put a link to a graph to support that statement. You have to actually find sources that say it's highly volatile. There was some god-awful sentence that read something like "Perhaps this is why people don't launder money using Bitcoin. I've started fixing some of the issues, but could use a hand from other interested editors. Please add a section entitled AltCoins which are spawned currencies looking to imitate BitCoin popularity.
Could Bitcoin be as transformational as the World Wide Web? The Bitcoin Channel http: World Bitcoin Network News http: Can someone please provide one? Someone added a sentence to the lead about self-generated paper wallets being the most secure. However, this violates WP: LEAD because it's not stated and cited in the body, that I can find. What is the source for the "prompting assertions" statement? Your Bitcoin wallet is like the wild west stagecoach, you get robbed, but no sheriff, Lone Ranger or Texas rangers are coming to your rescue!!!
It should be clarified that the paper wallet is probably the most insecure way to store BTC. Because at least the producer who prints the paper are know the private key. It is not the case only if it is you who print it. As Bitcoin goes more mainstream the use of physical tokens, i. Here's a recent link to this topic in case someone wants to add it to the article. Bitcoin page on bitcointalk.
Will somebody else please remove the paragraph "However it is impossible to prove I think I've already used up my three reverts for the day. What you're doing is called edit warring. The cycle is "bold, revert, discuss BRD ". You were "bold" by putting this out there:. Therefore this sort of storage is insecure and is a subject for a fraud , unless it was printed by the owner of a wallet himself. The process dictates that now we come here to discuss it.
Instead you just re-applied your changes. That's unacceptable edit warring. Probably the reason that disclosure of a credit card number doesn't make it junk, but that is because all money transactions can be traced.
Bitcoins transaction can't be traced with the same ease and the producer of a coin like https: Please try to find a reference that addresses those two points. Chris Arnesen —Preceding undated comment added WikiProject Bitcoin to help organize the improvement of Bitcoin and possibly other cryptocurrency articles on Wikipedia. Please consider joining if that interests you. Thank you for creating this group. I just joined it. Can you add it to the others at the top of the section "This article is of interest to the following WikiProjects: The reference provided for "Bitcoin has been called a cryptocurrency because it is decentralized and uses cryptography to control transactions and prevent double-spending, a problem for digital currencies.
Can someone suggest an alternative reference? It does not explain the technical foundation of bitcoins, it does not explain how they are mined, it mixers miners and users, etc. The focus is mainly on press reports about how it has been used for criminal activity. I do not know enough about the topic myself but someone who does would do well to review it.
And specifically target particular editors that Bitcoin advocates don't like! I have tagged the Reception section with WP: NPOV as it portrays a wholly negative image of Bitcoin.
In the last few weeks, the US Senate has talked about the legitimacy of the currency, Germany has declared it legal tender, and Richard Branson announced that Virgin would accept Bitcoin as payment for flights into space. This section displays an incredible negative bias. If this occurs, there are a few different steps tha We may request additional documentation to verify your business name, your EIN, your non-profit status or to verify the authorized representative for the organization.
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