I saw you annotation facts about Bitfinex in another post and am growing suspicious. Tulipmania What do you mean by that exactly? You would bitfenix believe that one could come across "geometric Brownian motion" twice in one day, but that's the second time for me! It's bitcointalk to see bitcointalk contributing info on bitfinex annotation the title is too much But that isn't the way Bitfenix trade.
Lots of vague statements about being a lot like Bitcoin and "weasel" logic like this This forum has been helpful. They've been 'coming to Australia' for a very long time, so don't hold your breath. If everything goes to crap, I've at least pulled out my initial investment plus a few free gpu's here and there. So there's a small market setting the rates - lenders trying to get the highest rate they can, borrowers trying to get cheap leverage. AMA link includes discussion about Blocknet vs Cosmos: Either integer or fixed point data types and operations.
SDEX will be bitcointalk world-class front-end that our underlying technology has long deserved. Wouldn't mind CND to keep coming down a little. What you're talking about is called a Stop-Limit annotation, and to create one you generally need annotation enter two prices one for the stop and one for the limitalthough both prices can be the same. The complexity is pretty low on Bitfinex for a bitcointalk site. I will start conservatively bitfenix, by setting up a trade for at worst almost no loss, then once I'm sure I understand it right and the tools, I bitfenix get more aggressive. Nearly as hard as giving up smoking.
You must buy low and sell high that is the best option. The best place you can invest in, in my opinion is in stockings or investing in yourself by buying bitcoin can also be good. How more you invest in someone else how higher the risk is that you will get scammed or lose a lot of profit.
So just hold the coins. Digital Inheritance Done Right. October 1st , Omegasun on March 14, , The Friendly Bitcoin Sportsbook! I already invested in a bitcoin casino and I must say its pretty profitable if you ask me, no doubt about for sure. The only thing you need to know is in what casino you have to invest, keep in mind there is a chance to lose money also Only good investiment for me is safe investiment.
And i think there is no safe investiment actually. Maybe lend money to traders on exchanges, but very low profit Invest in something that you can work with that, like a business, in my opinion it's the better way to earn money. Win btc just for 5 mins! Maybe I am not on topic here but why not, please follow my premium tips thread, it is on gambling, and if you place always the same bet everyday by now you would have been in profit. I have 16 wins and 5 losses out of 21 games I have suggested how to bet.
There are many places to invest. But now is not the right time to invest. Because the value is not that low around this time. So it is better if you wait a little longer when the price go down. Or you can do it now, but you must be for sure that the price will rise.
You are doubling your risks because you are gonna invest with the bitcoin in something else what is also risky. As of now there's no legit investment site to invest our money.. I think its better to buy and sell bitcoin to usd and usd to btc..
Try trading buy bitcoin when the price is low and sell them when the price is high.. I would suggest you to store your bitcoins then investing them anywhere, because now a days there are really less websites that are legit, every site has turned scam so we really can't believe any investment platform now a days so better to stay away from them.
Personally I dont think it is a good time to invest. But you must look at the websites where many people bought their Bitcoin. Because otherwise you will be scammed and that will be not good. So be careful before you invest.
Aamir1 on March 15, , Supercrypt on March 16, , Aamir1 on March 16, , I suggest dont invest to any investment site its better to start a thread in lending section just lend your bitcoins or give a loan but make sure that they have valid collateral so that you can lent him or her.. Also try to lend in poloniex..
If you mean by "a place to invest" a website that offers an interest percentage every specific period of time, then I advice you to get away from these sites as thay are most probably ponizi and you will not see your money again after depositing. It is risky but less risky than trading altcoin that may fall from. Aamir1 on March 17, , Ofcourse gambling is not a method to grow your money as the earnings on gambling is totally dependant on luck so just a few lucky people earn profit from gambling and the others just lose everything.
BitMaxz on March 14, , Crypto Games Catch the winning spirit. Invest in Ethereum, and wait a year. It is doing well, and I think it has the potential to do even better. Supercrypt on March 18, , Definitely igot is the best place to invest your bitcoin, Try igot http: Piltover on March 14, , I prefer trading altcoins or bitcoin.
That market is growing and will continue to grow for decades to come. Aamir1 on March 19, , Let me re-post what I have posted in another thread. So many cloud threads around. No point investing into cloud mining anymore, since halving is so close. This speeds up ROI big time. Also, you payouts come from various sources, not only actual cloud.
The link is bellow my avatar. No referral or any other shit. Just an honest recommendation. Aamir1 on March 29, , Omegasun on April 04, , Holding coins is like watching sport, you have some dose of adrenaline but this is not same as direct participation. Real question is which exchanges is for you, and for your style of trading.
JosNekoKopa on April 04, , Can it be that tere is no reasonable bitcoin invest option? From all I have read, the proposed investments can be done with fiat as well. So it all indictes that bitcoin itself really is the investment. Tamrlan on April 05, , I bought graphics cards to mine the altcoins and then sell them for bitcoin. I hold the bitcoin for the long term. Investing your bitcoins can be done by trading itself. I am a regular trader and keep selling and buying bitcoins without any issues.
I don't need to even save my bitcoins as I keep withdrawing my profit which earns me a good income. Besides this method, lending can also be considered a safe way to invest bitcoins for a high interest rate. If you are ready to take the plunge then go for it.
Currently over choices using your BTC as collateral. Only liquid markets so you can get in and out easily. The other benefit is that you can move your bitcoin collateral into fiat and back into bitcoin 2: It is a real market position with underlying trades in the exchange. First Global makes money if you make money. There is a clear cost structure, no spread where we make more money by trading against our customers.
The company is running a competition right now with live bitcoin account prizes. We can also add markets you may want to trade if they are liquid and meet certain risk criteria. New services coming for bitcoin investment. Marcie Comms Director www. Investments for your bitcoin can generally be separated into several categories. But can you read the market well enough to generate the best trading strategy? For every buyer of a coin, there is a seller, so who is doing it wrong?
But you need to invest time in selecting the right investment portfolios based on the composition, underlying beta and future outlook. But need to vet borrowers based on past track record too. BitcoinMalaysia on April 08, , Is there somewhere complete list of all proven exchanges? We could organized voting for the best exchange, or something like that. No doubt Bittrex and Poloniex, are the best ones, but i wonder how good are C CEX, Bleutrade, Yobit and how they are in comparison, with newer exchanges.
I believe first 10 places are very interesting for everybody.. JosNekoKopa on April 09, , Coin roll - Bitcoin Dice. Yes this is why i need several exchanges, because diversity is alway good, and you can do arbitrage. Every exchange have something unique and special.
Conclusions are clear, and competition is most welcomed. I am very security councious. So I will keep most of my coins in the cold wallet. I will trade a small amount. Omegasun on April 12, , I have touched base with a principal at one of these companies, perhaps an investment in loaning them money to buy more BTMs or even taking an equity stake in their company.
Don't try investing your bitcoin, its risky. If you want to grow your bitcoin, just find an easy way without risking your bitcoin. NeilLostBitCoin on April 14, , Thanks for the explanation, I didn't know about fixed point data types.
Slipped my mind, but integer conversion isn't fail safe as you may do "unclean" division at some point. Because it's the default data type for real numbers and less experienced programmers are sometimes unaware of floating point arithmetic limitations. It like knowing hammer but being oblivious of screwdrivers. Hammers are the right tool in many cases and they even work with screws most of the times The job looks as if it was done. But is it really? Floating point per se is perfectly fine when used correctly: It actually has some advantages and simplifies a few things.
This is OK because when floating point variable is used to represent integer numbers, it effectively stores integer without loss of precision, but with slightly reduced range because some bits are used for exponent.
Using floating point to represent fractional values e. The programmer still needs to check for bugs in every calculation that happens, and we are human, and make mistakes. We're all fools, so we better make our systems fool proof. Make it an integer, and the smallest denominator is one satoshi. In the graphical UI that the user sees, you can present it as bitcoins or whatever.
It's nice to see someone contributing info on bitfinex but the title is too much More or less, I'm new to margin trading, what do you mean by 'boundaries'? Can you give examples? Be careful, it dose look simple and appears to work well on the surface, but the site has some unseen dangers.
Volume, it has low volume and you will need to watch the order book to get the price you want. Whats nice is going long on margin because let's face it bitcoin spends a lot of time going up. The funds are sourced from other people with a deposit on the site, not from Bitfinex themselves.
So there's a small market setting the rates - lenders trying to get the highest rate they can, borrowers trying to get cheap leverage. You can just let it borrow for you automatically while you get on with trading, or you can fiddle with borrowing manually to try and get a better price.
The rate has varied from 0. I've been thinking about depositing some btc there for the interest. So the loan might be cheap, but betting against the market could still cost you The fees really aren't the significant factor when you choose which position to take. That process is not as smooth as you might think.
You don't get access to the Bitstamp order book. Otherwise it waits, and this is not always good. I think low volume is not much of a problem on Bitfinex. With an exchange and liquidity swap on top of margin trading, there's quite a bit of room to play around liquidity with on Bitfinex for closing your orders.
In fact, from what I've seen so far, the Bitfinex price follows Bitstamp very closely, sometimes spikes more for better entries. What do you mean stop loss is at market? Stop loss is a limit order and you choose the price you want to enter it at. Judge entry exit positions with some simple Technical Analysis; I learnt how to use them in less than a month. So it will continue selling until the whole amount entered in the stop-loss order is sold, which might mean some of the BTC are sold for less than the actual stop-loss order amount.
Correct me if I'm wrong though, that just seems to me like how that works on Bitfinex. Even though it's not ideal, the logic makes sense I know this reply is a bit late, but I want to clarify: Stop Loss orders are NOT limit orders. Think about it this way. A Sell Limit order sells only when the price is at or above your limit.
Since Stops are typically used to close losses, they are executed at market price to ensure a speedy execution in what could be a fast-moving trend. What you're talking about is called a Stop-Limit order, and to create one you generally need to enter two prices one for the stop and one for the limit , although both prices can be the same.
Buy your Bitcoin elsewhere from an exchange like Bitstamp. I only use Bitfinex for trading, so I haven't even done my account's verification and I won't ever need to. It was easier and faster than Stamp's verification. I never gave them my passport and have been using them for months.
Only problems I encountered have been low volume which is improving and one down period with an open position, but that was happening to multiple sites at the time. I guess that could be new but when I opened my account it was very painless, only an email was requested. I bought bitcoin on coinbase and moved it over which took about 2 hours the first time. They also have 2fa for piece of mind.
I never linked a bank account, though, so maybe that requires more. I always planned on exiting in bitcoin and selling at coinbase if I need dollars. Just go to their website, everything's disclosed there. It was started a couple of years ago by French entrepreneurs in Hong Kong. And you don't need to give them your passport if you're not depositing fiat there.
Do you have the same expectation from other exchanges as well? If so, which exchanges do you actually trust enough to use for trade? I'm saying that I think it's unreasonable for you to call Bitfinex untrustworthy, unknown and not transparent when you clearly have not even attempted to research the exchange. The rest of the market appears to trust them enough to make them the 5th largest exchange by volume over the last 24hrs.
The company is incorporated in Hong Kong with limited liability and once the beta phase is completed the system will go live under the company. Giancarlo is quite active on bitcointalk. Their security practices are published here. Their banking Shanghai Pudong Development Bank details are available via your account deposit screen.
Do you happen to work for them, know them personally? I saw you misrepresenting facts about Bitfinex in another post and am growing suspicious.
If you're suggesting that the items above are inaccurate, please feel free to call me out on specific items. I'm not claiming to have dug deeper than cursory searches in an attempt to provide an even viewpoint. Thanks for the info and for the plug. I've been curious about margin trading, and this post has me feeling slightly more knowledgeable about it, but still too concerned about the other issues trust, low volume to feel confident dropping coin on their site.
Have you ever had issues with such things as withdrawals? When did you start using Bitfinex? Have you ever traded other securities besides Bitcoin?
With an exchange and liquidity swap on top of margin trading, there's quite a bit of room to play around with on Bitfinex for closing your orders. I've only been using Bitfinex for 2 weeks. Never tried withdrawing, however did not also find any people who faced problems with that so if anyone else knows let us know too.
I have been trying out automated forex since nov , but since stopped and nothing else other than that except Bitcoin.
Learnt some in school, mostly from online. With regard to trust, it's tough to believe that people spend so much effort to build a functional site just to scam people. I'd just build a super simple site, not add extra functions, and disappear in a short time. Bernie Madoff's fund would be a counterexample to your approach, albeit a rather unusual one. But even if the intent is not to scam people, there are various other reasons to be cautious when entrusting your money to an exchange.
For example, what financial backing does it have, and what happens if it runs into financial issues? How good is its security? How good is the software - the ability to do accounting correctly and handle heavy transaction load during periods of unusually high trading?
How good are their lawyers in case they need to deal with government interference? I'm not aiming any of this specifically at Bitfinex - it seems like none of the exchanges have really great answers to these questions right now. BTC-e seems a lot less transparent than Bitfinex, for example. I'm just pointing out that it's not just about the upfront intent to defraud.
Of course that's true as well. That's why I keep my funds spread out over about 10 accounts. The founder previously said that they had bank accounts and developers in Shanghai, so I would be very cautious. That might be a problem. For me, I only trade coins on Bitfinex, and send them over to Bitstamp for withdrawls.
Don't know if that'll solve the problem. As long as they don't go under. It doesn't because Bitfinex needs to move money over to Bitstamp to clear trades made across the conduit. That will not help. There's no getting around that. Oh, good thing I don't use Gox. They must have some other benefits that draw in so many users.
I'm not claiming to know what Bitfinex's MO is, so I guess it's possible, but I don't think it would be wise for their business.
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